It looks like the (alleged) UHC Shooter has been caught. Lets discuss!
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Here's an update from a story from last week obviously last week we covered the fact that the CEO of United Healthcare
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Was shot in Midtown Manhattan a little over a week ago
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For reasons that at the time no one knew oh my god. Ah, so a major update they caught him
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Well, sorry
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For legal reasons they have allegedly
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Found the shooter the alleged shooter whose name is Luigi Mangione
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Has been charged with first degree murder for the death of UHC CEO Brian Thompson
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He was captured in Pennsylvania after being dime down under McDonald's where they had stopped the Greyhound for everybody to get off and eat
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On his person they found eight thousand dollars in cash two thousand dollars in foreign currency multiple fake IDs
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his US passport a 3d printed firearm a 3d printed silencer and
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A notebook and manifesto
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Supposedly explaining why he did what he did if you're interested in reading his whole manifesto
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It's not very long. It's only like 276 words
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It's very thing for a while the major news outlets weren't publishing it Ken Clippenstein who's a great journalist
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He got a hold of it and published the entire thing which now kind of opened the floodgates on publishing it
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His online
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Profile is interesting
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This guy he's got a bachelor's and a master's from Penn in engineering
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Right. He worked at fire axis games. He's worked at a bunch of tech companies
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He's he's kind of if you look at his Goodreads profile. He's almost in that AI crypto tech bro space, right?
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Supposedly what may have happened is apparently he had a back surgery
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Right and there may be something with that
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Okay. Yeah, cuz he was like a he was like a plumber and he was bent over a lot
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There was a meme on tiktok about Mario going to rescue Luigi. Um, yeah
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He seems like he's very online
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He apparently dropped off the grid about six months ago
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Like there were messages like DMs on his Twitter that people found a people like hey, are you gonna be in my wedding like?
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He just
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Gone so
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Again, he has this is all alleged. He has not been convicted by a jury of his peers
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God knows if they're gonna be able to convict a guy
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Yeah
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Here's the other interesting piece a couple days before they caught him Eric Adams the mayor of New York was like we're closing in
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We know his name and then after they caught him. They were like, yeah, he wasn't on our list of names
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So the what that tells you this was legit somebody at the McDonald's are like that kind of looks like the picture
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They called the cops the cops showed up like legit the NYPD and the FBI had no idea
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None, they were not looking for this guy. I
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Don't understand how he was IDed
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Because the picture unless there's a different picture going around because the picture I saw I was like
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Yep, that's a dude. That's a male. He has eyebrows see his smile
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I don't so was this like person and McDonald's was like calling the police like five times a day be like he's here
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He's I don't I don't understand
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I think it was a combination of the pictures that were released from the McDonald's
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It's a combination of before he's eating. He's wearing a mask. Oh
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Right like a like a like a not an N95 but a surgical mask, right which most people don't do now
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He took it off and he was wearing like out of a darker jacket had the big bushy eyebrows
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And so I think they literally were just like could be you know
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Did he did like the Batman thing where someone just like
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Yeah
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God
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Okay, so I do I have like there's so many questions
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I
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Was watching documentary about the serial killer who was from the state of Washington
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Killed a lot of people all over the United States
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He was in the he was in the military and he would travel kill people and whatever
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and
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When there were questioning him
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He was like, oh, yeah, like I also killed this person but like you're never going to find the stuff because I would like leave like I would take
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Part of like the weapon and I would put it in like this dumpster and that dumpster like along the way
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And my biggest question is like the 3d printing gun like I could see like yeah, don't throw the entire gun away
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But why didn't he just like?
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He's on a greyhound bus. Why didn't he ditch it when he ditched the monopoly money in the backpack
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Well, I mean like or at least just slowly like lose some of it like
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Throw okay in the in this trash can here's like the magazine boom and this trash can here's like this part of the gun right like I
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Don't I don't like why like why would he still have and in my my opinion like what I what I think is like
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He knew that eventually he would be caught and that's why he had like a man. I think so there was also supposedly a YouTube channel
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Which by the way YouTube nuked
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That had a time dot so when you go into the back end of YouTube you can time out when videos like you could set release times
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I do it all the time and supposedly there was one about to pop
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Right where he was gonna explain everything in YouTube nuked the channel
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Before it had a chance to release
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I so what this boils down to in my opinion is I think this guy is a very smart guy
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But not a very good criminal
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Right like he had enough foresight and stuff like that to kind of plan out and if you read his manifesto
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He's like well, it was pretty easy with some social engineering. I did this this and this to family I was gonna be but
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But
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Again, I don't think he's like an experienced criminal
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Who like in that moment is thinking like a criminal?
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You know what I mean and again, there's also some argument to be made that he wanted to get caught
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You know I I
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Everything that he was doing was very like memeable to me like the the messages like on the shell casings the monopoly money
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Then I mean I guess like the manifesto a little bit, but like everything like this wasn't a guy that was like
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Focused really on getting away because I think if he was focused on getting away
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Mm-hmm, he would like very quickly probably crossed over to Canada and then got a flight to another country
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That doesn't extradite and then boom you would he would have vanished like I
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don't I don't know I
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Maybe he wanted to be caught maybe he knew he it was only a matter of time before he got caught in today's world
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I'm not really sure. I mean, that's that's my best guess
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Chat just said he planned his kill didn't plan his escape and I think that's I
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Yeah, I think that's probably the closest thing to accurate
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Obviously this story is not over the fact that they've they've captured him alive. They're working on extradition to New York
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Because he's in Pennsylvania, so they got to go through a process
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In Pennsylvania, he's been charged with weapons crimes and a bunch other like minor
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Stuff that he did in Pennsylvania, but obviously New York City is gonna get the first bite at the Apple to prosecute this guy
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He does have a defense attorney
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He you know he will now avail himself of the criminal justice system
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I do not
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Envy the prosecutor that's got to do this and I guarantee you this prosecutor is
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Praying to God he can get a deal
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Yeah, he's not gonna but I
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Wouldn't want to be the one that prosecuted this
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This is gonna be very interesting. This is gonna be one of those trial this trial the century kind of deals
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You know, I don't maybe since OJ. Have we not had a trial OJ Rodney King? I
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Don't think I think this is one that that's gonna revive court TV. You know Casey Anthony, maybe like
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You know like
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Chas has to deal for what um
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Basically, they're gonna try and convince him to plead guilty in in exchange for a smaller sentence, right?
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It's first degree murder New York does not have the death penalty. I don't believe but let me I can actually look that up for you
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Really quick
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Does the city have the death penalty
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Not currently
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So
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I mean, I'm sure he's looking at life in prison without possibility of parole so if you're the prosecutor like look dude
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I'll give you
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25 to 30 years, you know, these are young guys only like 26, you know, so you're you're gonna get out someday
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You know
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So if I'm the prosecutor I'm like look dude, I'll give you 25
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To 35 years in exchange for a guilty plea
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He's still gonna be over 50 before he gets out of prison
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Yeah, you know, I don't know though like I
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Killed a rich CEO elite person like again
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I wouldn't want to take this to trial because I'd be worried about jury nullification. Oh, yeah a hundred percent, right?
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The other thing is if he's suffering from chronic pain that can cause psychological conditions chronic back pain and stuff like that can drive you nuts
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Right and again, you know, there's your defense. He's crazy. Oh
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Gosh speaking about that. I think my favorite defense you can look this up
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This is a true thing the tween the tweeky. Oh my god, Twinkie Twinkie the Twinkie defense
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I will have to look that up
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Essentially somebody said like they ate too much junk food too many Twinkies and then shot a
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public I
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think governor of
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New York or something
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Remember I like you got to reduce sentence because of the the Twinkie defense
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Let us know what you guys think also we would be remiss if we didn't if we didn't touch on this
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Social media has lots of conspiracy theories that this ain't even the guy that this is all the giant setup and that they're this
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This guy is a fall guy because the the NYPD and the FBI doesn't want to admit that that this and that it's the completely
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Wrong dude. It's not him
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So I would be remiss if I didn't if I didn't touch on the conspiracy theories that this ain't it and
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The real shooter still out there
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Who knows but we're gonna find out cuz there's gonna be a very public trial very soon
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It's gonna be real interesting again court TV might make a comeback. Good for you court TV
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What what would we do without Nancy? Oh, who was it? It wasn't Nancy Mace
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I keep thinking Nancy Mace because of the crazy lady in Congress
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Who was the lady from court TV that did that she did all the Kansy the Casey Anthony stuff
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Who got famous
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Oh God, what was her name Nancy Grace?
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Nancy Grace is gonna make a comeback
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Just for this trial, it'll be great. Well, let us know what you think down in the comments below
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Do you think it's the guy do you think they're gonna be able to convict him?
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Do you think he's even to make it to the trial?
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I don't know we're gonna find out