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Into the topic. All right. So, um, you know,
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I think it was like a few weeks ago, we did an
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episode talking about the, um, trans members
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in the, in the, in the military and all that
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stuff that was happening. Um, well, it was announced
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today that the U S military has 30 days to set
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up procedures for removing trans troops. Um,
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a memo was filed in court as part of a lawsuit
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against the Trump administration. This memo was.
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ordering the Pentagon to identify and fire us
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trans active military members. This is a course.
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Um, after the fact that earlier this month, the
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Pentagon stated that us military members, um,
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would no longer allow trans members. However,
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um, to like actively enlist into the military,
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but those already like kind of grandfathered
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in would be treated with honor and respect. Um,
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so that shits out the window now, you know, just
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a few weeks later, um, and all of this has really
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been kind of like the latest move to erase really
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the trans community as a whole from the, I guess,
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like the world's eye or America's eye, I guess.
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Um, so for instance, all mentions of trans have
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been removed from the Stonewall national monument
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website after an executive order. Even though
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we know Marsha P. Johnson, a black trans woman,
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was not only a part of this movement movement,
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but is believed to have thrown the very first
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brick at the Stonewall Inn. And this is this
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is something that's a little crazy because I've
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I've definitely have gone off on social media
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of getting into like arguments of like. I don't
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know, trans hate, so What's really interesting
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is people have literally told me that You know,
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the liberals are trying to be your race our history.
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Yes but then You have a cheeto man in office.
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That's literally trying to erase trans history.
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Like I don't I Don't get it I don't and they
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they don't see it so literally an argument that
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I got into I pointed this out I was like What
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the fuck about this then? I and the logic or
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lack thereof that I was hit with was I am. Trans
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history is not history because trans is new.
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And I was like. The fuck are you talking about?
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I was like, you realize like like anything in
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the past is considered like history, right? Like
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it doesn't have to be 2000 years ago. It doesn't
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have to be the pyramids. It doesn't have to be
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some guy turning water into wine. A hundred years
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ago is considered fucking history. Anyways, what
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do you think, Alex? What is your, since you were
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in the military and my, my kind of stance on
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this is because they're saying that trans members
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are unfit to serve. And this is something that's
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very interesting to me because. There are a lot
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of jobs in the military. I mean, I knew a guy
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who ran a gift store on a fucking. Aircraft carrier,
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I don't even know why the fuck you have a gift
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store on an aircraft carrier, but he he ran the
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gift store. So it's really hard for me to like
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kind of try to understand that like you could
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say like no Like there's not a single position
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in the US military that you're fit to do so You
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got yet three things happening here simultaneously,
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right? One in general I agree with the chat,
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okay If you are willing to sign on said dotted
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line, raise your right hand, and say, I am willing
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to support and defend the Constitution of the
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United States, and, you know, fight it, you know,
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defend it against all enemies, foreign or domestic,
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look, it's an all -volunteer military. You need
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all the bodies you can get, baby. Like, I don't
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know why you're turning motherfuckers away, right?
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Like, that's... So let's start there. Okay, it
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takes a level of any level of commitment to Sign
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the papers and anybody who's been through fucking
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maps will tell you man. That's the first thing
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fuck boot camp Dude, that maps day is miserable
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right when you're doing your entrance stuff for
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the army. It's horrible. It sucks Okay, so let's
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let's start there. Okay, that's my my initial
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My initial play on this right which was You don't
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what why are we turning people away? Why are
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we discharging people that want to be in okay?
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Problem number one when it comes to the military
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There is very very little that anybody can do
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because the commander -in -chief is the commander
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-in -chief right much like with the kovat vaccine
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stuff Don't get the vaccine. We're kicking you
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out right And there's very little anybody can
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do about it because it's it's the Department
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of Defense. They they have congressional and
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Senate oversight, but that's limited in what
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it's capable of doing. So it sucks, but I think
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this is going to stick. But here we get into
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the problem that the DOD has. and it occurs anytime
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you have and it's just it's the nature of the
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business in in our hyper -partisan modern political
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world where the secretary of defense is a political
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appointee as he always has been and is a senate
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confirmed political appointee okay that changes
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with every administration there is going to be
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this shit okay because you have a political appointee
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in that position. And so the whims of the political
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class who has taken over the White House and
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the executive branch are going to affect us.
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I think it's wrong. I think it's stupid. Largely,
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I think it's stupid because, first off, why would
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you turn away bodies who are willing to do it?
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And also, it's such a small percentage of the
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Department of Defense. Why the fuck are you worried
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about it? Right. Like, does this? Is this really
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affecting the DOD's ability to complete their
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mission? And it's not. It's really fucking not.
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Yeah, both YouTube's and and and Twitch chat
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are kind of in agreement on this topic, which
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is, look, it's it's dumb. It's fucking dumb.
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It's it's fucking dumb. What would be a better
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way to picture it? You've got to get down to
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rebuilding the system from the ground up. And
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I just don't know if we're there as a nation
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right now to get to that point where we can rebuild
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the system from the ground up. How have I served
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with people from the LGBTQ community? Yes, especially
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Don't Ask, Don't Tell. I had multiple people
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under my supervision who I was their leader,
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right? Who? were part of that community. Right.
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But I will tell you this, even after Don't Ask,
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Don't Tell, there was still a political and social
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price to pay. OK, because you're also dealing
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with culture and it's it's it's a fucking nightmare.
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The other piece of this is that the leadership
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in the Department of Defense has also forgot
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a key thing. And they're like, the DOD is supposed
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to be apolitical. No. they're supposed to be
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nonpartisan. You are a political entity, right?
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You just are. In fact, you are the last political
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thing we do. When politics and diplomacy fails,
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we send the army, right? They have mistaken being
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nonpartisan for being apolitical, and I don't
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know what it's going to take to fix that. There's
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a lot of pushback within kind of middle rank
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leadership in the military. I'm seeing a lot
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of it right now. I don't know how. I don't know.
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And unfortunately, you really can't sue. It's
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going to be difficult to set lawsuits up. So
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I'm not sure how this was going to play out.
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But yes, the trans erasure. This was lock stock,
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their goal. Right. They removed the T from the
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LGBT travel advisories on the State Department
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website. They're removing trans references to
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the Stonewall. Yes, this is a goal because it's
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red meat for the base that costs them nothing
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and is easy for them to accomplish politically.
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It's like the NCAA, the sports ban and federal
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funding, right, with banning trans athletes.
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The fact of the matter is, is it affects, what,
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probably 50 people? nationwide if that right
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hence why i'm like why are you fucking worried
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about this just let the ncaa handle it but the
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fact of the matter is is it's red meat to the
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base right look base look what we're doing look
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what we're doing promises made promises kept
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that's and and that's that's that's their mentality
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right this is an easy one to toss to them while
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they pass tax cuts for rich people right that's
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all there is to it I'm done. That's my piece.
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Again, I would never turn away anybody who wants
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to do that miserable fucking job. And it's a
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miserable fucking job at times. It sucks. You
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want to do it. Why would you turn them away?
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Right. So. Anyway, you have anything else on
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that one? You want to move on to funnier topics?
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I guess a real quick. Since we've seen a lot
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of movement on trying to erase the trans community
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in general, what do you think's the next step?
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What do you think they're going to go after next?
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I. I don't know. And so this is where, again,
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we get into weird territory because they're going
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to cross a line. And ironically, the current
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court is not really on their side, right? The
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current court is the one that ruled that discriminating
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against someone who's trans is discrimination
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based on sex per the Civil Rights Act. It was
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Neil Gorsuch, Trump's first appointee, who wrote
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the opinion. Gorsuch wrote the Bostock opinion
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and pissed a lot of conservatives off when he
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did it. He's a Trump nominee. He's not supposed
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to do that. He wrote the Bostock opinion. I don't
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know which way this court is going to go on this
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particular issue. They went the way that we didn't
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expect in Vostok. Vostok v. Clinton County was
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the was the case. And it was an employer who
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fired somebody for being trans. Right. And the
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court, the opinion of the court written by Neil
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fucking Gorsuch was. Yeah, if you fire somebody
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for being gay or trans, you are discriminating
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based on sex. Right? Like that's what it is.
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So plain text reading of the Civil Rights Act.
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And again, conservative justice. Do I know if
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that's going to be the case going forward? No,
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no idea. But. So that's why I'm having a hard
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time telling what they're going to do. We're
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still and this is the thing that I caution. I
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had a. Conversation with a friend of mine the
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other day who's like you very frustrated like
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it's so hard to keep up with everything that's
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happening I go remember these guys are only about
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a month and a half into this We don't really
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know how this is all gonna shake out yet because
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we haven't had time for the Supreme Court and
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everybody else and and and the process to play
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out and There's a few ways this can go and I'll
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be honest. I'm stuck I have no idea which way
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this is gonna go in the meantime. They're gonna
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hurt a lot of people Before we get to the resolution,
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I just don't know what it's going to be. Did
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any of what I say make sense? We're angry and
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it's it's shitty. What the fuck? No, it's. It
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does make sense. I just honestly, I can't. I
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believe. I know we're about like a month and
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I can't believe that we're here. Well, I can't.
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I fucking can't. You know, I think like my favorite
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kind of shirt I've been seeing is. Make 1984
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fiction again. To me. We knew and we tried to
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tell people project 2025 was the goal We told
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people take this fucker seriously He's dead serious
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about what he wants to do and there were so many
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people Who fell into that like lean Trump camp?
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Who were like no? He's not it's hyperbole You
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know, I can't tell you how many news stories
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I've seen this week of people who are like I
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voted for Trump and now I'm getting railed up
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the butt like We fucking told you we yeah, we
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told you this was the plan we knew everybody
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on our side knew You know So that's probably
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a topic for another day. Let's let's let more
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of the fuck around and find out Anyway people
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let us know what you think down in the comments
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below Well, we're gonna we're gonna move on to
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fun time. Yeah, I mean it's shitty